Sunday 19 August 2007

Off on a Tangent (Part 1 of many)

The first of an occasional series that has nothing to do with screenwriting whatsoever. As I might’ve mentioned before, I might infrequently go off on a tangent and indulge in my tastes for noisy, obscure music that no-one else has ever heard of. To prove this, go to my ‘Profile’ page and click on the word ‘Slab!’ under music (second line). Go on, do it now, you know you want to.

Bloggers with favourite music that includes Slab! – No Profiles Found

No other person in the entire blogging universe lists this band.

I don’t think you can get more obscure than that.

Try plugging Slab! into Google and see what you come up with. Apart from a Brummie metal band who have nicked the name, not a lot.

In some respects, these facts make me feel incredibly smug, inasmuch as I know about this band and the rest of the world doesn’t. However, for the most part, I feel massively aggrieved that such a brilliant and essential record has passed people by without anyone noticing.

The following review is a sort of adaptation of the one on Amazon (I wrote that one too).
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SLAB! – DESCENSION – Ink Records, 1987 (re-issue - Release Records)

Re-issued from a long deleted vinyl release, this is still one of the few records that I would unhesitatingly define as 'essential', purely because there's nothing out there either before or since that quite sounds like this.

Forget the scary looking band photo, all silly hats and mullets. This was originally released in 1987, so perhaps they can be forgiven.

Imagine Michael Gira from Swans waking up one morning with a nagging pop tune in his head, but only being able to play it with the volume turned up as loud as it will go. Or the scuzzed up, stroppy older brother of Material's Memory Serves. Or Trent Reznor slumming it without a major record deal, forced to record in the shittiest south London studios that his meagre dole money could afford. If any band melded together such a disparate range of musical styles, emerging at the other end with something that still sounds entirely modern, progressive and above all unique, then I wanna hear it.

Before this record, Slab had released three 12" singles, noted for their dedication to a particular type of Clintonesque groove, albeit somewhat scuzzy – slick, geometric basslines with bursts of jazzy horns all married to a droll vocal delivery. All very listenable, but very late eighties: a little contrived maybe – studied, over-polished perhaps. Slab! was a band with a plethora of members, so maybe a degree of democratic watering down was to be expected.

Nothing this band did before quite prepares you for the assault of Descension.

'Slab' just about sums up this record. Tunnel of Love, the opener, hits the ground screaming with a burst of white noise guitar sampled to sound like no other guitar you've ever heard in your life. If this is a statement of intent, it works. From this point on, there is no let up.

This is like the soundtrack to the scariest movie you've never seen. Undriven Snow melds a discordant two note guitar riff with a surprisingly melodic vocal, the bass bucking and warping, threatening to take the whole song down some dark alley and give it a damn good kicking.

Think of Descension as an industrial jazz record with all the stops pulled out.

This is dark stuff – drone laden, dubby, loud as hell, the classic definition of lo-fi. Put this band in a 48 track digital studio and they wouldn't make any sense. Slab! need that dirty, scuzzed out sound, that rough around the edges feel that you can only apparently find in cheap, decrepit south London studios.

Slab! rip into every song as if their recording time is on a meter. Everything sounds urgent, impassioned. Dolores is a huge stand out track, at once both paranoid and immense, the hushed verse giving way to monstrous beats, hesitant horns punctuating a fierce bass line.

Improvisation is high on the agenda on tracks such as Dr Bombay and Moosleand, where Slab slip effortlessly slip into a relaxed, scuzzy loungecore, improvising effortlessly around skittery piano notes and erratic beats – the sound of a band confident enough to know that they can get away with this and still make it compelling. Even the way in which the tracks have been recorded suggest an urgency. There is a real desperation to get this stuff down onto tape before the moment is lost – ticks and buzzes, feedback, strange industrial clankings, buzzy amps – all have their place here. Even the primitive samples are ragged, punched in when required, speed of the essence.

And all this is before you enter the paranoid, cinematic world that Paul Jarvis’ lyrics conjure up. The album’s openers – Tunnel of Love and Undriven Snow - read like narratives from serene but ultimately disturbing short films. Dolores is an unsettling dream of environmental collapse – “On the banks of a river, in a sweltering town, She can sense there’s great sickness in the water supply.” Vigilante justice groups roam the streets in Gutter Busting, kicking down doors and dealing drugs with impunity. If this sounds exhausting, it is, but this is exhilarating stuff. Music played by a band straining at the end of its tether, music teetering on the edge of collapse.

Two bonus tracks are included from the People Pie 12", but they already show a band retreating, as if the excesses of Descension were merely a freak aberration. As good as the reworked People Pie is, it can't disguise a move into a more commercial sound – backing singers, a guitar solo, a lot less of the ‘knackered studio aesthetic’ that their previous sound was rooted in – details that Descension does not concern itself with at all.

And why should it? Twenty years on, this sounds as good now as it did then.
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In short, if you want to know where Trent Reznor gets the majority of his ideas from, check out this album.

Slab! released a further album entitled Sanity Allergy a year later, also on Ink Records. To date, this has not been released on CD – my vinyl copy is still playable, but only just.

Just for fun, look what happened to their bass player, Bill Davies.

On a screenwriting related note, the first script I ever wrote was called Descension. I sent it to Planet 24, who asked me, "Is Descension actually a word?" Well, no – technically it isn’t, but it’s a damn great record. It’s a crying shame nobody’s even heard of it.

Later in the week I'll be discussing the difference between a bitch slap (as administered by Gordy Hoffman in the previous post) and a pimp slap (as administered by a well known UK script editor), so stay tuned!

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Dave said...

thank the funk indeed!

these peel session tracks are awesome! this was my first time hearing dust, and i love it! was this like a live thing with some overdubs added after?

who was on guitars? was it just jarvis, or was morris present for this?

Dave said...

new comments seem to be on a different page...

Chip Smith said...

Hi Dave - I think we've just run over Blogger's 200 comment limit for posts, hence the new page! No matter, everything looks fine from here...

I think Slab did three Peel sessions - I used to have the second one on tape years back - if I remember rightly, there's an awesome version of Gutter Busting (titled Bloodflood) and Parallax Avenue - this session must have been pre-Descension, and I loved it, but I haven't heard it for years. No doubt someone has it out there somewhere...

Dave said...

ahh ok... i assumed the one page would go on into infintiy lol!

yeah, i'm sure more songs will turn up some how.

Sir Edward Damocles said...

hello again
yeah i got lost too... thanks dave for pointing out the next page!

1st Peel Session
its Paul on gtr... Mr Morris had not yet scented money so was still absent from the fold... he of course returned fairly sharpish I seem to remember...

Dust was live as far as I recall

All the Peel sessions were done live with only a vocal overdub... it was their standard way of recording... all done by Dale Griffin ex drummer from Mott the Hoople (his stage name was Buffin Muffin.... ha!)

2nd session.... I have a very rough version on cassette I will mp3 it and do for you good people...

The good old BBC would not give artists a copy of the sessions... you had to stay up and record it off the radio yourself....

Sir Edward Damocles said...

Just to say that I've started commenting on the Killer Moses blog linked from this page. There are some downloads of the eps there...

The A sides are all directly related to Slab... if you wanna know more go read it over there... the b sides well to be honest they dont really stand the test of time except "The Hanging Garden"... so I wouldnt really waste too much time on them..

and finally... work continues slowly on the long lost 3rd album....

Sir Edward Damocles said...

Killer Moses

you have to work your way through the A sides... they all start out fairly innocuously but give em time and they evolve.... after 5 mins Killer Moses starts to take off where Slab should have been going on Sanity Allergy...

the A sides are much the strongest and all 3 of em are directly related to Slab...."Killer Moses" becomes Slab in interstellar space with the ghost of Miles Davis... "Insomniac" has a driving dirty mutha of a bass and absolutely no one had made a screeching synth sound like the hook line before that record... and Icarus is fucked up hypnotic space Slab meets 2001 on a mission to god knows where...

get em here

http://rapidshare.com/files/143441621/KillerMoses.zip.html

regards

Mr Dray
www.slab-uk.co.uk

Dave said...

the killer moses stuff is pretty good! some of them are quite catchy actually like bogey man... i'm surprized you didn't put your voice on any of this stuff! but this is impressive considering that not many people were doing purely electronic music at that time. what year was the last killer mosoes release?

Dave said...

steve, you mentioned in an earlier post that you selected jarvis for guitars, but what about the lyric writing? did you know he had a knack for poetry when you recruited him, or did you discover his lyrical talents after he joined?

heshter said...

I DJed out last night for the first time in 3 years here in Tokyo, "Son of Sloth" went down a treat with the natives !

Dave said...

noticed dave morris' son left a comment under the you tube people pie vid

Sir Edward Damocles said...

RETURN OF THE MOOSE

thanks to dave from ninth hollow as of today i am now back in touch with mr morris after a gap of some twenty years....

so............

DESCENSION here we come i hope......again ha....

dave morris and i go back a long long long way and i must say the prospect of working together is something i am really excited about....

we havent actually talked about it... not even met yet.... just one email so far....

but the thought of doing something with the moose is something i am pretty happy about.......

my musical history is intertwined with him.... i know i've said i 'm not sure if i'd work together again....

but there aint no "musician" on earth i'd rather work with thats for sure.....

(dont classify myself or paul as "musicians" though undoubtedly we are...heh heh)

so........... to say i am excited is an understatement.... the reunion is almost complete...its weird but he's in my blood...

i do see a new album being written....

ANYWAY

sorry for a lack of communication of late and sorry for not answering questions... been busy...or something...

and thanks HESHTER for the nice comments ... goota join your youtube.jp page sometime....

the 3rd album is coming along in between bouts of near insanity on my part...( i kid you all not... my mental health aint what it shouldve been.... but the darkest of pits seem to be rescinding just now thank god... it wasnt a pleasant to place to be... but its gone now and i'm back on track).....anyway Paul and I need to get back in the studio as soon as i can sort my life out...

the 3rd album will happen i wish it already had.... but 20 yrs ago i had a lot more time and a lot less commitments.. Slab was a "job"... it aint now....therefore what i'd hoped would take a couple of months is dragging out.... but we'll get there...

thamks to one and all for keeping this blog rolling

more to come....

Steve

Sir Edward Damocles said...

UPDATE

ok......... maybe i was a bit quick off the mark in my effusiness for working with mr morris....

paul has quite rightly had a bit of sort your head out chat with me..and i guess itwas just me being pleased at rediscovering an old friend....or foe... even though he did behave ina somewhat Brutus fashion....heh heh

the work we are doing for the third album will be just me and paul... plus the occaisional guest...

once i meet woth mozz there is the possibility that we might work on the odd track in future....but as paul said no compromise

and the direction we were taking at the end of Slab was based on me writing music from a very emotional standpoint.... yep some of it is pretty noisy..
but it aint anywhere near sanity allergy.....

its by far and away the best material slab ever did and it contains a serious amount of depth in the way the lyrics and music work so effortlessly in conveying the particular given mood....
... smoetimes sad... sometimes euphoric... sometimes ultra pissed off and sometimes rather a lttle fucked up....(stange that last one given our emotional characters....... and 20 bleedin yrs later i'm still sufferin occaisionally........oh woe is me....infamy infamy they've all got it in for me.....

bet you never thought youd hear slab quoting kenneth williams...... heh heh

time to go..... wife on the prowl........

goodnight and may your god go with you

mr dray

Dave said...

new SLAB! pic on their site http://www.slab-uk.co.uk/

very fucking cool!

heshter said...

Happy new year Slab!

Anonymous said...

Mr Dray here

we are updating the website...
each week a different pic and a chart of what we been listening to

this week (mon 12th Jan 09) its Paul's chart

Anonymous said...

Euphoria track

Mercurial b side mix on youtube

I havent heard this for a long time its pretty good for 1993

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1awn5zuG6eA

Dray

Dave said...

mercurial-great song for night clubs, or maybe early raves if they were happening at the time.

i still need "bride of sloth" , has anyone got that tune yet?

it's nice to finally have read an actual slab interview(http://www.slab-uk.co.uk/images.htm), do you have any more? and can i coax you guy's to post the lyrics for oedipus t rex and painting the forth bridge on the web page?

Chip Smith said...

Hey Dave - I've got Bride of Sloth (and very fab it is too) - drop me a line and I'll do you a copy.

Anonymous said...

hello dave and fellow slabheads

Dray here....

my top 5 cds are up for the week of 25/1/09... following week will be paul again

oedipus... "release your slick all over me".... ahhh young love

i'll ask paul to put lyrics up

i could probably just about remember em he he heh

other interviews... well there are some... we'll dig and see ...should also get some reviews up too....

life is too friggin busy!

keep posting folks... I was out of circulation for a while having dropped my laptop just after xmas.... not clever... but am back

getting some feedback via the site which is nice

regards to one and all

Steve

Dave said...

thanks steve,that would be cool.

and thanks again chip for the tune!

Anonymous said...

Pauls home listening selection up for week beginning Feb2nd

and a groovy new pic

Anonymous said...

For anyone who cares ... we're starting to put info up about the new/old album . At least you can read what it sounds like ! Our website is: www.slab-uk.co.uk All the best . Paul

Anonymous said...

This months Wire magazine Sunno))) describe Slab as amazing and cite us as reason they want to use gospel choir....

Anonymous said...

Hey bloggers ! Fascinating Slab! news !!! Steve and I went for a curry last night ! It were right tasty ... And , that's about it ! Bye ! Paul

Dave said...

good to hear the new slab can afford more than baked potatoes and home brew!

i found lou cicotelli-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4loJpjeytk

he's a damn good drummer!

Anonymous said...

Hey Dave - glad to hear you're still around ! Yes , Lou Cicotelli is a fine drummer and a top man as well ... he gave up everything to come over and play drums with us , and despite the extreme poverty of us all , kept his sense of humour , and was totally unphased by everything . Truly a lovely guy , no matter how corny that sounds . Glad to see he's still over here and giving it a go ...

No more news on our latest opus as we've hit a major hitch ( well , the studio we had occasional access to is no more ), so we have to rethink ... which we're doing .

This record is a bit like the Ice Age - it's taking centuries to come , but when it's finally over there'll be a myriad of interesting valleys and mountains to dive into / off ... Paul

DRAY said...

ramblings

well as Paul said not a lot happening as I closed my studio of 16 years....
but just have to do it another way and it will be done....

still updating website..

my own musical faves at the moment are Nadja.... theres a couple of tracks on the 3rd slab album which predate them by 20 years,,, but i like their utter heaviness and emotion...
who else ... well i like the St Kilda cd....

otherwise all is well in the House of Dray and I am emerging from one of my self imposed internal exile black holes...back into the world

Dave said...

i'm still kickin around! been super busy lately with my own musical ventures, and my internet computer crashed a while back and i took my sweet time getting another(i wouldn't dare use my music only computer for internet!).

are you guy's going to try setting up studio's at home? or has anyone with access to a studio offered to help? how much actual recording time do you think you need to complete album 3?

how the hell did you guy's get a sampler back in the 80's by the way? weren't they extremely expensive back then? and steve, how did you get equipment for making electronic music after slab? weren't you durt poor?

i honestly don't know who most of these artists are that get posted on the slab page(i've checked a few out on youtube), or how you guy's can find fresh music to listen to all the time.

dray said...

ok Dave glad youre back....here goes

umm home set up>>> well mine has been under the bed for some time.... ah domestic life how it strangles your creativity...but i am about to purchase a new mac and i have all my software from the studio....never been one to use loads of equipment really... just whatever i need

help from studios>>>> well i aint aLlowed out much to play these days so it will have to be done at home....sometime before I die..

how did i get equipment for making music after Slab>>>> well i sold my body whenever i could... there's an awful of old English ladies who were very happy to assist my musical career... i just wish theyd kept their teeth in....heh heh
by then i was running a studio so didnt matter if i had no gear of my own really... at home had an atari, 4 track and sampler and then mac...
i was however still dirt poor but i had contracted some marvellous diseases....

Samplers>>>>> bleedin expensive... we bought an Akai S900 new in 1987 i sold Dave Morris' arse to get it... actually we had a miniscule publishing deal and spent all of it on the sampler.. i consigned it to my local dump last year...

bands on slab webpage>>> if its new then its mostly from blogs... i suggest you try
http://spacedsaviour.blogspot.com/
http://glowingraw.blogspot.com/
http://magicofjuju.blogspot.com/
http://buginthecity.blogspot.com/

and many many more... will post if you want
email me if theres anything specific you like... i know where they live....

regards

dray

Dave said...

so you sold your SLAB! to the old ladies eh? better toothless old ladies than men! haha.

yeah man, the home set up is the way to go! do you know what kind of mac you're getting? do you have a space in your home that you could actually set up as a studio,like with some acoustical treatments and what not? being able to record a live drum kit is a nice option(personally i can't, so i got a roland v kit). what else do you have left from the studio besides software?

the fact that you guy's dropped that kind of cash on a sampler back then says a lot about your forward thinking and desire to experiment/create something unique and fresh.

question regarding playing live with sampler- samples usually have a set tempo, did you ever have trouble fitting them in live while playing without a metronome? i'm going live soon and my stuff( has a lot of synth, smples, loops, drum loops) but there is no way in hell i'm going to be playing along to pre- recorded bed tracks and a metronome. i want everything to be performed live.

dray said...

Live

never used loops live in slab... used em in other little musical ventures such as the fantastically named Brothelcharge.... where i played bass and paul played gtr... but that didnt have a drummer so was fairly easy just whacked it up as loud as possible in the monitors.... and then everyone else turned up to twelve!!!!

but in slab we used the sampler mainly for effects or the occiaisonal string line or tune... in the last line up we opened with Visiting Hour which had a string line played over it just like a normal keyboard
and a couple of other songs that relied on "tunes".... but Slabs main weapons were gtr bass and drums
the very first Slab gigs were Bill me and Paul with a tape of drum loops that we'd recorded in a studio and used live... I think Paul has a live tape somewhere.... it was ok

re forward thinking...yes we were... we knew that samplers were the way forward... i've always regarded instruments as optional... if some sound can be created elsewherwe then use it and at that time i was most pretty bored with conventional instrumentation and wanted to explore the sound palette .... so a sampler was the way forward....

it made Descnsion.... and it wouldve made a fuckin good second album if we'd gone down the route i talked abut after descension which was what i termed heavy psychedlic hip hop.... in other words murderously heavy psychedelic grooves and effects.... something 20yrs later a few people are doing!

i dont kow how loud your gonna be so i dont know about yuor monitoring slab were bloody loud on stage so playing to loops just wouldnt have worked.....

dray said...

more live

dave if your monitoring is ok you could just trigger your loops live... bit difficult to do it yourself better to have someone else do it and just work off each other....change stop as necessary etc...

its odd... as much as i like a bit of chaos the funny thing is Slab were very very tight live.... only the very early gigs would have any chaos involved... we always left space for things to happen or songs go off into the stratosphere, but there were always cues that would bring things back together.... i think we rehearsed to death, but certainly most of the line ups knew exactly what was going on

Anonymous said...

"heavy psychedlic hip hop.... in other words murderously heavy psychedelic grooves and effects...."

i really like the sound of that!

i did a show a couple of years ago at the local goth industrial night club in town, and i had a roland vs1880(18 track hard disc recorder)playing pre-recorded beats, samples, and bass/lead synth. the drummer had a set of headphones with a seperate click and bed track monitor, and the rest of us(bass, guitar and vox)had the stage monitors. basically we relied fully on our drummer not to stray from the click, other wise it would have been an absolute mess!! luckily he didn't stray at all. but the bed trcks i recorded had way too much low end, and so the whole thing ended up being really loud and distorted. after that show i vowed never to play with pre-recorded beds and a click ever again as it really seemed to kill the feel and vibe. ideally i would have one person playing a synth( basslines and lead) and some other person triggering samples and loops/manipulating effects etc. of course the meat of the songs would be bass, guitar, drums and vocals.

Dave said...

that previous post was me(not that it wasn't obvious)

dray said...

sounds like the best way to go....

Dave said...

bill davies mentioned some things about recording without a click, and the band recording all at once to capture as much vide as possible etc. haha shit maybe i should lose the click in the studio as well, if you want vibe live, then surely you want it on the recording!

i'm listening to son of sloth, damn what a great song! are you playing sax on that one steve?

dray said...

we didnt use clicks that much we just did it... in fact i dont know if we used clicks at all....

occaisionally played along to somehting on the early stuff.... Mars On Ice used a 303 and so did Oedipus so we'd lay them down and follow

most recording was done live with some separation and occaisional overdub....

Son of Sloth
Yes tis me a blowin ye old saxophone... probably last time i ever played it....think i got bored pretending to be albert ayler....havent touched it since

one day I'll get it out and me and bill can go busking with our early songs....

before Slab we once played the furniture dept of a department store heh heh....

now that was a sight to behold....like a rag taggle medieval army or escapees from the asylum

Dave said...

303 in oedipus? is it a bass synth line? i can hear the synth line in mars on ice, but not oedipus.

"we once played the furniture dept of a department store"- lol thats awesome, too bad you don't have some video of that

how did the instrumentals come about, were they just improves for the most part? what was the deciding factor in not having a vocal?

dray said...

oedipus - bill doubles up exactly the 303 with slap bass

think we stopped using it as he felt a bit tied to rigid structures

instrumentals - dunno i guess i harboured a musician in me heh heh...hence killer moses.... think i have always liked instrumental music as it leaves a bit more to the imagination...see pauls description on the website of Butchers Wharf on the 3rd album....

i like vocals but sometimes i used to get bored of doing em....

Dave said...

i thought that was just a bass guitar! you wouldn't have the separate tracks would you? I'll do a remix lol!


the instrumentals are nice for sure, but it's not the same without the "voice that could bring a shutter to a fossil"!!

dray said...

remix ha ha

not unless you got 24 track reel

all done on 24 track

most of tapes have shed

had real problems mastering Descension re release CD cos tapes were screwed...

Dave said...

Will have to wait for album 3 then as far as remixes go.

Question: Do you, or did you guy's try to capture/convey a certain essence, mood, idea through music? Were you/ are you concerned with just the sounds, or was it (is it)something deeper?

DRAY said...

where are you Paul??
for me its always been using the sounds to convey a mood or emotion or a picture in my head....i never once sat down and thought ooo great sound i must write a song with it.... couldnt be anything further...BUT
i guess when we wrote stuff with Bill there was an element of yep thats a great bass line or riff, certainly was with the original Parallax Avenue and original The Animals... oops and Painting the Forth Bridge ... and Mars on Ice ...etc etc... ok all the early material...it was the way we worked then.... but it still conveyed a mood... "the contours of a human face beaming down from Mars" or portrayed a story or place...
so for me and Paul (and probably Bill back then) it was a very visual aspect that was being portrayed and I guess trying to get what was in our heads into yours...

Dolores is a classic example... it sounds to me like I'm on the banks of a river in a sweltering town.......the songs is sweatily psychedelic and epic in 3 mins and heaves with a sort of decayed sexuality....

its JG Ballard its Lolita its fuckin epic

Flirt is another one... its grindingly sexual in all the worst possible ways and its break lurches with a very a real sexual swagger... but its dirty and grey and it sounds like Glasgow in my head....

MR JARVIS come on down...

more latterly I work from a palette of images in my head that i just happen to use sounds for and I guess thats where I've been since the latter days of Slab

I think its what I ultimately dont like about Sanity Allergy... I feel detached from it apart from Visiting Hour... I dont think it musically conveys much imagery at all...

Ok its got some "good" musicianship... but so fuckin what it doesnt tell a story... its a fuckin band trying to show off and be a modicum different....but I dont get any images....apart from Visiting Hour which I think attepts to portray a life cheated out of brevity.... and ends as the tape runs out very appropriately... yep Sanity Allergy sounds better to me than it did 20 yrs ago and it aint bad...but I never feel theres a lot of me in it and I suspect Paul doesnt either...

FROM OUR HEADS TO YOURS

Chip Smith said...

Sorry Mr Dray, I’m going to have to disagree with you (in part) about SANITY ALLERGY – I’m not sure you could ever surpass a record such as DESCENSION, but SA seems to me to be a different beast entirely. Much of the first side conjures up some pretty evocative visual imagery as far as I’m concerned: rightly or wrongly, with Station KY I always think of John Carpenter’s The Fog, a sort of heavy, claustrophobic mugginess – and Son of Sloth is probably one of my favourite Slab! songs (there are quite a few to choose from admittedly).

SA is certainly not as sonically adventurous as Descension (I’m not sure what else is to be honest), but I always see it as a necessary retrenchment and regrouping – but for all that, it’s still a great record!

Sir Edward Damocles said...

ahh Mr Smith good to hear from you... I was beginning to wonder if there was only me and Dave left in the known universe.....

Yep I get "The Fog"... its exacrly whats in my head too ... and Born In A Wreck aint bad I have visions of Night of the Hunter with that one...poor old linda jones (was it? doomed to float down that river bed for eternity... but although I can look back on it and feel much much much happier with it now than at the time I dont quite get that visual aspect...... CHip you were right when you said side one is pretty crackin but Cancer Beach was a fairly unforgiveable mistake all things considered....

i think i began to lose the will to live when Barry our engineer started talking about a "great vocal performance"... i remember telling him i could do that kind of shit (and sanity allergy vox too) in my sleep.... hence the "what an arsehole" throwaway in the middle it refers to me ...oooh i can sing.... but it wasnt what i wanted to do.... Barry didnt get it... he couldnt understand why i didnt want to sing like that and for years paul thought it was refering to him as it follows the "play your funky gtr"... nah people I was pissed orf and a tad disillusioned with the shallow cabaret that we were descending into....
oh well.. i knew we shoulda covered My Sweet Lord....

so for me the Allergy isnt as visual...

and the last album pisses on it from such a fuckin huge height... but problem is no fucker is ever gonna hear it at this rate....check Pauls comments on the new songs on the website the visual aspect of that one is enormous and all encompassing... and you know what... even after 20 years nothing sounds like the body of songs at all... no one....

well anyway I await Pauls contribution to this one... good posts Dave and the Chipster... keep em coming

Anonymous said...

Morning, chaps ! What's all this ballyhoo about the old girl Slab!?!?

Chip, thanks for your kind words about Sanity Allergy . I agree, it's pretty good but like Steve, I have pretty bad memories about making the darned thing . I too feel strangely detached from it ... it doesn't feel like our record - it sounds like somebody else ! Imposters ha ha ha !!!

I don't want to run through the whole torrid history of how we ended up with the line-up on that record, but there was a definite sense of Slab! being hi-jacked ...

Now don't get me wrong, Scott and Lou were mighty fine players, and they put their neck on the line by coming to live over here, but ... BUT it meant the songwriting got a lot more fractured and unfocused .

It was only fair to the Americans that we became a democracy, to give them a chance to earn royalties too ( pitiful as it turned out ), as we had no other way of paying them .

Thus, a lot of the tunes were written from riffs Scott and Lou had already worked up, hence the weird P-Funk feel of the record . In other words, we had our arms twisted, and I for one felt very uncomfortable throughout that whole period .

This also meant the songs we ended up with didn't really evolve organically the way all our best previous songs had - Flirt , Dolores , The Animals etc all went through stages of editing / rewriting to become the mutoid beasts they became . Whereas on SA all we could really do was try to graft a few psychedelic ideas on to a funk backdrop ( Now , I love funk ... I just don't really want to play it particularly )

Steve absolutely hit the nail on the head about the lack of imagery on SA . I feel that way too, and it's interesting that for you Chip, there is imagery !!! It was interesting writing up the lyrics for the website - a few of them seem like unfinished fragments, which is quite unlike my normal lyric-writing which is very precise . This gives the clue that the songs weren't fully realised - in other words we made do with whatever fitted .

It does make for an odd experience listening back ... only a few rare moments where the music and words work as one the way they largely do on Descension . Born In A Wreck is my favourite - the wracked vocal , the Southern Gothic bent preacher imagery ( hello Flannery O' Connor ! )... Visiting Hour is great too - spooky as it should be ... survivor of a suicide pact gets a ghostly visitation from their successful pactee .

Other than that , there's a bit of Genet in Last Detail ... my life-long asthma in Fourth Warning ( I've since ended up in hospital 4 times with asthma ) ... Station K.Y. IS The Fog ( guv, it's a fair cop ! ) only nowhere near as scary ... Son Of Sloth is Sonic Youth having a knife fight with Material ... Sanity Allergy is absolute lyrical hokum of which I'm much ashamed ... Cancer Beach is Jimi Hendrix played politely by The Rutles ... Switchback Ride is 'exotic'(look Mum ! Eastern violins !)... Midnight Sun is someone on the run in an Orwellian state as imagined by say Funkapolitan ( look them up ! ) and is a great example of the music and words running off in different directions ...

So, pretty good but a bit unfocused . Most of the reviews of the time gave us 3 out of 5 , or 6 out of 10 . For once, I agree with the critics ...

All in all , a different way of working to the forthcoming 3rd record, and as Steve says, the music and words on that are absolutely 3-D Technicolour compared to SA . The music for starters is so much more evocative - there's more mystery , emotion , depth , variety ... That some of it is dodgy 4 track quality doesn't matter - the INTENT is there .

The big difference ? Simple ... we no longer had the constraints of writing for 'a band' with all that entails ( egos , money ,star-sign obsessed girlfiends , etc etc ) . Yes siree , this is us ( largely Steve ) unfettered , writing for fun , with imaginations allowed to run riot . Now, if only we could finish the bloody thing ...

Over and out

Paul Jarvis

dave said...

awesome answer steve on the original question i posed. as far as sanity allergy goes, it's not a bad album at all, and i listened to it quite a bit, but it's nowhere near descension, it's not even anywhere near people pie or bride of sloth, and i completetly understand what kind of position you guy's were in and why the album was a little below the bar. but hey, it's still a lot better than half the shit out there!

I'm on vacation with very limited internet access, but next time i'm on i have another question i'm going to post.

DRAY said...

and i am the bringer of some good news

cos i is viewing this splendiferous page through my brand spanking new rather fuck off Macbook Pro and by heck it rocks ladeeeeezzzzzz

so...... this means after a bit of installing some software mr jarvis and i can kick arse onwards and upwards and finish that blessed album of ours...and get it out into public domain...

hurrah for technology and bank accounts...

and yes lets keep this blog kicking along... and so for starters....

OK which member of Slab's entourage can be seen regularly on..... wait for it..... wait for it.... ANTIQUES ROADSHOW

apologies to colonial visitors but AR is a quaint old English tv programme and not exactly rocknroll.... but i suppose if youre gonna smash up hotel rooms you may as well know the true value of that which you trash....

answers please....

dray said...

ummmm ok ... we seem to have died... A.Roadshow man is our old sound engineer and still good friend... Marc Allum....

dave said...

i'm back, had a vacation and limited internet access. i noticed the blog was down when i tried to check it 2 weeks(or so)ago too.

any way thats good news steve! have you got it all loaded up with software yet? has the album started progressing?

whats his job on the antiques roadshow?

Dray said...

I have a new blog

http://themosesman.blogspot.com/

have a look

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